encore wolf

Missy · Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: encore wolf

Take a peek...lol

http://www.mediafire.com/?3hhd1jt3djn

849593 = GUID
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dre · Member Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 139 Cookie: -277

thats a yes in my book...the kc in the begining was sketchy but the one that did it for me was the one in short a...there was no other way to know that guy was there.
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Young · Member Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 148 Cookie: -3

ehh idk bout this... there are two shots that are suspicious. First the one dre is talking about in short A. However after watching it a couple times it is pretty clear that the guy is making sound before he comes to short a. It would take the player almost being in a scrim mode kinda setting in order to look there waiting because the sound is minscule however when dre runs into short a u can definately hear more than one person running there. That is a feasible explanation for why he waits but then again he would have to be concentrating amazingly because i didnt notice it the first time watching (then again im staring at 6 beers already surrounding my comp ... and yes its only 4 in the afternoon)

second shot is when he is in his left g spot after seeing a guy in ramp and he comes out looking for a guy creeping into short A when there is... that is suspicious however its not enough alone because no where else in the demo are u able to see how he plays that corner and based on how he plays boxes it seems like a reasonable way that he plays to inch out slowly like he did.

My final conclusion is that it is a suspicious demo and something to watch for in future definately however banning a person based on this demo i do not think is fair. I probably have had a demo of myself much more suspicious than this and if i was banned on it i would think it was complete b.s. bc i dont hack. So i believe that it might be hacks however there is not enough in this demo to ban him for it. However it is your server missy so do whichever u please.
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Dex · Guest Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 2

I was watching it with r_showtris 1. And at short A, the guy ran down the ramp and crouched before he was in short A. He did not make a sound. Dre makes sound running and Wolf makes a small sound taking a step. The one in short A doesn't. I do find it suspicious however I honestly think it was just lucky. I also watch my back often, its not uncommon for a player. It just ends up looking very suspicious when someone happens to pop out (which is not very often).

Personally, that is the only suspicious shot I saw. The rest of the demo looked average.

And yes... I know he's my clan mate and I'm "supposed" to defend him, but I've watched him for a long time and I think he is clean.

Young · Member Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 148 Cookie: -3

ehh i disagree on the sound.. i also watched it with showtris and i saw the same thing and he crouched just before he got into short a... which on a map if u have someone courtyard running and u r where wolf was u can hear him... i also did not hear it though until watching it for the 3rd time. however i was simply stating that there was sound made and it was possible he heard it but he would have to of been in a scrim mindset trying to look for ne possible sound. IDK if he was or not however i know ive heard things or think ive heard things and because of that ive waited at corners for someone to come and because of that it can look suspicious. In this case however if really focusing u can hear the guy coming... i still think its suspicious but not enough to warrant a ban
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Achilles · Member Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 227 Cookie: -5

youtube please?
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The Unit · Guest Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 36

Achilles · Member Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 227 Cookie: -5

media doesnt work on my computer
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Missy · Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:58 am Post subject:

Ok. well I have to say thank you to Dex, for coming on here and "talking" thru this and not cussing out. I have unbanned Wolf. Let me explain why.

He was banned in an unorthodox way in the first place. Two of my members said they had demos, I WASN'T in the server. So I had one of em ban him on the spot till i could put up the demo and watch it myself.

Normally, I watch the demos right away and take action, For that i do apologize, I had WAY too much stuff going on yesterday. I too watched it with showtris on and the only shot that had any suspicion to me was the short A, and I can hear him BEFORE he goes into there. It is a suspicious demo no doubt, but not conclusive enough to ban him. So he's been unbanned.
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